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On this episode of Ghost Hunters,

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TAPS travels to Arkansas to investigate a haunted hotel

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with a macaw history.

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Let's go on down to the Haunstdormord.

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In this room is where they store the body parts,

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the large, large formaldehyde.

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Ah, come on.

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Will the spirit that Haunstdormord reveal itself?

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What the heck?

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That was a form.

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Oh, jeez.

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It's a full body apparition, which blows your mind instantly.

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And then Jason challenges a medium

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to prove his psychic abilities.

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Can you give me a psychic reading of myself?

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I try here.

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I panned over to Jake and something was happening.

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It wasn't subtle at all.

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It's insane.

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What the heck?

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And the tech team has an eye-opening experience.

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Thought it was for something to move.

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What is this?

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Dude, there's going to be something going on over here.

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I just saw eyes.

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Oh, jeez.

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So I was talking to Donna about this place in Arkansas,

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Eureka Springs.

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It's called the Crescent Hotel.

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Really strange history behind it.

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Like what?

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They've witnessed apparitions of a doctor who used to be

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on staff walking down the hallway.

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There's a lot of voices.

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It's a hotel now, but at one point it was a

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fake cancer curing place.

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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So the basement used to be pretty much a morgue.

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So there's a lot of activity down there as well.

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So they just wanted us to come up, check the place out.

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Cool.

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Yeah, it sounds good.

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Let's do it.

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We're really interested in this Crescent Hotel case.

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It sounds like it's got amazing history.

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The whole town of Eureka Springs is built on these

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cold, natural springs.

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And there's a theory out there that the whole

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town is haunted.

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Here we go, Arkansas.

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Watch out.

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It's going to be one long drive.

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But when we get there, hopefully it'll be worth it.

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Hey, Arkansas State Line.

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Woo-hoo!

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Oh, we're in Arkansas, finally.

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This is pretty nice.

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I got to say, it's actually beautiful.

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I never expected this for Arkansas.

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The cool thing here, guys, is this time we get to check

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into the hotel and we go right into the investigation.

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Excellent.

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This one's good to me.

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Hey, how you doing?

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Jason, some tabs.

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Hey, Jack Moyer.

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I'm the hotel general manager.

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Welcome to the Crescent Hotel in Spots.

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The place is incredible.

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Thank you.

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Ken is our Eureka Springs historian.

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He'd love to show you around.

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Awesome.

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Am I on?

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Let's go.

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The hotel was built in 1886.

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Oh, wow.

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And over here at this table is a gentleman that sits here.

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This table?

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He's from the Victorian era.

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His name is Jacob.

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And it's kind of a romantic story.

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What happened was he fell madly in love with this young lady.

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And he sits here at the table.

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And he's waiting for her to come to breakfast.

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Now, how do you know that story?

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It's old stories that people have been telling

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since the Victorian days.

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This room right here was Dr. Ellis' office.

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He was a staff physician.

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Dr. Ellis was a well-respected physician back in the 1880s.

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He really believed that these springs had a healing power.

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People report seeing a man dressed in Victorian outfit.

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The vision they have is him coming out of the elevator

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here and walking straight across and just

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straight through the door.

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Where are we going to be heading now?

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We're going to go up to the fourth floor.

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This is 419.

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A lot of people have reported you wake up the next morning

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and your clothes are neatly packed against the door.

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Against this door?

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Yes, against the exterior door.

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I'd love to stay in that.

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Was it possible you could get in this room?

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I will certainly get you the key.

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Let's go on down to the hospital more.

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Back in the 1930s, the Crescent Hotel

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was bought out by pretty much a con artist who thought he

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had a magical cure for cancer.

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But the claims he made ended up just killing hundreds of people.

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This is the place that they actually had the bodies?

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Correct.

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All the cancer patients received an autopsy.

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And I want to introduce you to one of our best artifacts

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that we have of the hospital period.

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And that's this autopsy table.

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I'm a rotor rudder plumber.

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I actually had to work at a morgue one time.

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It's a nasty job.

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Yeah.

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OK, where I want to show you now is a special room over here.

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In this room is where they stored the body parts

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that they were studying.

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Oh, come on.

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And they were stored in large jars with formaldehyde.

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And the activity in this room is from the guard.

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He kind of feels hostile.

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So if you can give us some help with that,

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we'd appreciate it.

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OK.

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We invited Taps in because we hear all the time that we're

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America's most haunted hotel.

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We've had employees that have had occurrences.

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Even I've had some strange things that have happened

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that I can't explain.

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So we thought it was about time that we find out

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if we truly do have some spirits here at the hotel.

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Hey, guys.

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What's up?

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This is going to be a workout.

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This was a.

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It's a big place.

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We've got the dining room.

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We've got the annex.

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We've got all the way up to the fourth floor.

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Also, we've got downstairs.

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We've got the moor.

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Can I go down there?

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Oh, you can go down there after you get my equipment set up.

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You guys can go down there.

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This is a really tough setup.

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So in order to move things along,

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Donna's talking to Jason Graham about the camera setup.

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Donna's coming up with a list against the other places.

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OK.

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I'll set up.

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Donna, you got that list for us?

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Obviously, one camera and the moor, hopefully two.

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Impossible.

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We won't have a cord that reaches that far.

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I think they said there's a window back there.

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They can let me.

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I don't know.

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Again, they don't tell us anything.

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We need a camera in the hallway near 203.

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They said they told you where in the room

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the phenomenon was happening.

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Sorry, I didn't get that.

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I think Jason and Graham should probably

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get a better system down.

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The plan of telling Donna where to set up the tech stuff

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clearly didn't work.

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Oh, boy.

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We don't know where in the room to aim the cameras

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or where the cameras are going.

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If you guys are going to be in town for a while,

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there's a house that is quite active.

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It was Dr. Ellis's home.

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Oh, from 212?

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From 212 upstairs that I was telling you about.

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It's known around town as the most haunted house

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or the most active house in town.

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Yeah, let us check our schedules.

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We'll tease it in, especially if it's

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one of the most active houses.

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Hey, guys.

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Sorry to bust this up for a second.

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Donna said that you guys want two cameras in hallways.

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No, there's not.

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That's what she told.

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Two hallways?

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Nothing to that.

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No, let's go for a walk.

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There's no communication between Jason and Graham

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and myself as to where the camera placement should be.

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For some reason, they told Donna, which

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doesn't make any sense because she's not

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in the tech department.

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All right.

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We don't need any cameras in the hallway.

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We need a camera in.

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No cameras in the hallways.

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In 203, filming the hallway to the elevator.

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Sorry if we weren't clear, Donna.

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All right.

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419, we're putting the camera in the room.

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I ate it on board.

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And in the morgue.

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Just for future, this is a whole step

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that could have been completely skipped if you just told me

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instead of it goes back to the merchant house

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or the Andy Andrews.

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Up in the airness, that makes no sense.

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If you were Andy Andrews, he would have said,

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you should have known him better.

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Oh, it would have been chaos.

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You don't even tell me.

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We understand Steve's point of view

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with not knowing where the equipment is going and everything

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else.

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And me and Grant have talked, and we really

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need to start including him on the tours.

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What is it with you in this tape?

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I don't know.

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You got a pinch and pull.

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See pinch?

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Yeah.

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Pinch and pull.

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It's sort of getting it now.

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No, no.

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See, look at that.

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Oh, crap.

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Did you just move that camera by mistake?

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Die.

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When I opened the door to Grant's room,

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his computer bag was propped up against it from the inside.

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I thought that was really weird, so I figured I'd better go back

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and talk to Grant about it.

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Hey, guys.

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Yes?

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Dude, your room.

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Where did you have your laptop when you left?

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I think it was in front of the TV.

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Yeah, when I tried to get in it, I couldn't,

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because it was propped up against the door.

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I couldn't get in the damn door.

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Great.

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I got sleep in there tonight.

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That's your room again.

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So I'm going to put the bag back in front of the TV

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with Grant at it.

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We'll focus the camera on it, and we'll see if it moves again.

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Stop.

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Perfect.

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We're good.

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Let's just kill all the light.

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The story in this room is that this is the room when

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patients couldn't take it anymore,

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and there was so much pain that the drugs weren't really

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working anymore.

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So they would bring them in here to basically sit

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until they died.

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So once they died, they'd go down to the morgue.

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Something that's interesting in this room

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is that it's in 2.0 all over the place.

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I need an MF detective to get in.

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I need a MF detective to get in.

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An E-MF detective is designed to detect

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the strength of electromagnetic field.

276
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2.8, 3.2.

277
00:10:00,300 --> 00:10:02,100
We're looking for any kind of spikes,

278
00:10:02,100 --> 00:10:04,780
unexplainable electromagnetic fields.

279
00:10:04,780 --> 00:10:08,060
Well, actually, it goes at 2.5 on the bed.

280
00:10:08,060 --> 00:10:11,180
I don't know if that's going to bring it up a bit.

281
00:10:11,180 --> 00:10:14,820
Goes back down to 1.

282
00:10:14,820 --> 00:10:16,180
But once we have the spike, we just

283
00:10:16,180 --> 00:10:17,540
don't call it paranormal activity.

284
00:10:17,540 --> 00:10:20,060
We then slowly try to locate where

285
00:10:20,060 --> 00:10:22,140
that spike is originating from.

286
00:10:22,140 --> 00:10:24,260
Travel this way.

287
00:10:24,260 --> 00:10:28,940
2.0, 2.1, 2.2, 1.5, 2.8, 3.3, and 6.

288
00:10:28,940 --> 00:10:29,420
There we go.

289
00:10:29,420 --> 00:10:32,980
It's coming from this flipping hot tub.

290
00:10:32,980 --> 00:10:37,020
Yeah, 3.1, 3.2.

291
00:10:37,020 --> 00:10:38,900
Don and I are heading to room 419,

292
00:10:38,900 --> 00:10:40,940
the grandstand where the computer bag moved.

293
00:10:40,940 --> 00:10:42,260
We're going to do our E-MF sweep.

294
00:10:42,260 --> 00:10:45,620
It's a 0.2, 0.2 reading.

295
00:10:45,620 --> 00:10:47,900
Are you the spirit that is moving things in this room?

296
00:10:50,100 --> 00:10:52,260
1.4, 1.5.

297
00:10:52,260 --> 00:10:54,260
Do you have the camera down?

298
00:10:54,260 --> 00:11:01,140
1.4, 1.0.

299
00:11:01,140 --> 00:11:03,500
I did have a 1.4 at one point over here.

300
00:11:03,500 --> 00:11:05,980
Right now, it's just at 0.8.

301
00:11:05,980 --> 00:11:07,060
My readings have dissipated.

302
00:11:11,340 --> 00:11:12,580
0.1 again, 0.2.

303
00:11:20,700 --> 00:11:22,740
There's the freaking autopsy table, man.

304
00:11:22,740 --> 00:11:24,260
That's just freaky.

305
00:11:24,260 --> 00:11:26,740
Think of how many bodies were down here.

306
00:11:26,740 --> 00:11:28,460
Yeah, oh, jeez, just a thought.

307
00:11:31,900 --> 00:11:33,900
I hate morgues.

308
00:11:33,900 --> 00:11:35,180
I don't got any morgues.

309
00:11:35,180 --> 00:11:37,460
I'm just gonna work in one.

310
00:11:37,460 --> 00:11:39,220
Whoa, whoa.

311
00:11:39,220 --> 00:11:41,260
Just left the whole, let's check this room out.

312
00:11:41,260 --> 00:11:43,980
Now, this is the room that was filled with jars of formaldehyde

313
00:11:43,980 --> 00:11:45,420
and body parts.

314
00:11:46,420 --> 00:11:48,420
I thought something went right past me.

315
00:11:48,420 --> 00:11:50,420
It would be a favor to just rewind quickly,

316
00:11:50,420 --> 00:11:53,420
because when we first came in, I was right on that cabinet.

317
00:11:56,420 --> 00:11:58,420
What the heck?

318
00:11:58,420 --> 00:12:00,420
Did you see that?

319
00:12:00,420 --> 00:12:02,420
Yeah, that was a form.

320
00:12:02,420 --> 00:12:04,420
That was a form.

321
00:12:04,420 --> 00:12:07,420
Holy crap, that's freaking me out.

322
00:12:08,420 --> 00:12:11,420
Now, this is the room that was filled with jars of formaldehyde

323
00:12:11,420 --> 00:12:13,420
and body parts.

324
00:12:13,420 --> 00:12:16,420
While me and Grant were checking out the morgue with the thermal camera,

325
00:12:16,420 --> 00:12:19,420
I noticed something odd I'd just have never seen before.

326
00:12:19,420 --> 00:12:21,420
It's my favorite, just rewind quickly.

327
00:12:21,420 --> 00:12:23,420
I immediately asked Grant to rewind the tape,

328
00:12:23,420 --> 00:12:26,420
so I could see what we had caught on the thermal imaging camera.

329
00:12:26,420 --> 00:12:29,420
And upon him rewinding it, I could see a figure.

330
00:12:29,420 --> 00:12:31,420
I could see a figure standing right there in the door next to us.

331
00:12:31,420 --> 00:12:33,420
No, no, no, no.

332
00:12:33,420 --> 00:12:35,420
I was just like, I'm gonna go get a new one.

333
00:12:35,420 --> 00:12:37,420
I'm just standing right there in the door next to us.

334
00:12:37,420 --> 00:12:39,420
Oh, jeez.

335
00:12:39,420 --> 00:12:41,420
When Jay said, rewind the tape,

336
00:12:41,420 --> 00:12:43,420
I was expecting a flash or something.

337
00:12:43,420 --> 00:12:45,420
Holy crap.

338
00:12:45,420 --> 00:12:47,420
Oh my gosh, that's freaking me out.

339
00:12:47,420 --> 00:12:49,420
Normally when we catch something on the thermal imaging camera,

340
00:12:49,420 --> 00:12:51,420
it's not very impressive.

341
00:12:51,420 --> 00:12:53,420
Oh my gosh, hang on, I gotta look at that again

342
00:12:53,420 --> 00:12:55,420
before I start flipping out.

343
00:12:55,420 --> 00:12:58,420
But there staring us down was this figure that was

344
00:12:58,420 --> 00:13:00,420
no more than two feet away from me.

345
00:13:00,420 --> 00:13:02,420
And honestly, it gave me chills.

346
00:13:02,420 --> 00:13:04,420
That kind of stuff just doesn't happen very often.

347
00:13:04,420 --> 00:13:07,420
It's the holy grail for us investigators.

348
00:13:07,420 --> 00:13:10,420
And to know that it happened right next to me

349
00:13:10,420 --> 00:13:12,420
really kind of freaked me out.

350
00:13:12,420 --> 00:13:14,420
Hey, does it look like a hat?

351
00:13:14,420 --> 00:13:16,420
It looks like it's wearing a hat.

352
00:13:16,420 --> 00:13:19,420
Like the brow from a hat.

353
00:13:19,420 --> 00:13:21,420
It does.

354
00:13:21,420 --> 00:13:24,420
I really wasn't sure if it was an apparition or Grant's reflection.

355
00:13:24,420 --> 00:13:26,420
You think that's maybe my reflection, Jay?

356
00:13:26,420 --> 00:13:29,420
The image that showed up was so clear

357
00:13:29,420 --> 00:13:32,420
that I thought it's gotta be one of us.

358
00:13:32,420 --> 00:13:34,420
Let's just make sure that that's not my reflection.

359
00:13:34,420 --> 00:13:37,420
We immediately set about trying to

360
00:13:37,420 --> 00:13:39,420
make a reflection in that locker.

361
00:13:39,420 --> 00:13:41,420
I was right about here.

362
00:13:41,420 --> 00:13:43,420
Yeah. You see me? No, look.

363
00:13:43,420 --> 00:13:46,420
Oh my gosh, I'm not there.

364
00:13:46,420 --> 00:13:49,420
We opened up the locker in case someone was inside,

365
00:13:49,420 --> 00:13:51,420
but there's no way someone could have ever stood inside

366
00:13:51,420 --> 00:13:53,420
that it's just a bunch of shelves in there.

367
00:13:53,420 --> 00:13:55,420
That's you on camera.

368
00:13:55,420 --> 00:13:57,420
Alright, put it on the thing again.

369
00:13:57,420 --> 00:13:59,420
It's gone now.

370
00:13:59,420 --> 00:14:01,420
Where's the two?

371
00:14:01,420 --> 00:14:04,420
Why was the two hot?

372
00:14:04,420 --> 00:14:06,420
I don't know.

373
00:14:06,420 --> 00:14:08,420
Me and Grant were looking at the locker

374
00:14:08,420 --> 00:14:10,420
and we kept seeing the two glowing red.

375
00:14:10,420 --> 00:14:13,420
There's really no reason why that two should be red.

376
00:14:13,420 --> 00:14:15,420
Alright, look at what we can.

377
00:14:15,420 --> 00:14:17,420
Is it black? Maybe then it would be taking heat.

378
00:14:17,420 --> 00:14:19,420
I'm trying to think of anything.

379
00:14:19,420 --> 00:14:21,420
No, it's freaking spray painted white.

380
00:14:21,420 --> 00:14:23,420
At first I thought it was Grant's reflection,

381
00:14:23,420 --> 00:14:25,420
but it turns out it wasn't.

382
00:14:25,420 --> 00:14:28,420
It's something we've never caught or seen before,

383
00:14:28,420 --> 00:14:30,420
but we really need to analyze it

384
00:14:30,420 --> 00:14:32,420
and try to understand it before we present it as evidence.

385
00:14:32,420 --> 00:14:34,420
Dude, we gotta show Steve that.

386
00:14:34,420 --> 00:14:36,420
I want you guys to take a look at something

387
00:14:36,420 --> 00:14:38,420
and give me an impression.

388
00:14:38,420 --> 00:14:40,420
Me and Grant were in the basement

389
00:14:40,420 --> 00:14:42,420
and we were walking around with the thermal.

390
00:14:42,420 --> 00:14:44,420
Oh, sh**, one more time.

391
00:14:44,420 --> 00:14:46,420
I'm looking at that.

392
00:14:46,420 --> 00:14:48,420
Dude, you should have been there.

393
00:14:48,420 --> 00:14:50,420
No, someone had to be there.

394
00:14:50,420 --> 00:14:52,420
Steve, you know I wouldn't pull your leg on something like this.

395
00:14:52,420 --> 00:14:54,420
Give me a break.

396
00:14:54,420 --> 00:14:56,420
Like a whole figure.

397
00:14:56,420 --> 00:14:59,420
It looks like one of those army, military hats.

398
00:14:59,420 --> 00:15:01,420
Wow, man, that's unbelievable.

399
00:15:01,420 --> 00:15:03,420
Alright, I'm going to stop it right here.

400
00:15:03,420 --> 00:15:06,420
I'm ejecting this and just putting a safeguard on the tube.

401
00:15:06,420 --> 00:15:08,420
Yeah.

402
00:15:08,420 --> 00:15:10,420
I was really excited when I saw that footage

403
00:15:10,420 --> 00:15:12,420
of Jason and Grant and Cod.

404
00:15:12,420 --> 00:15:14,420
I haven't seen anything like it before.

405
00:15:14,420 --> 00:15:16,420
It could be very big.

406
00:15:16,420 --> 00:15:18,420
It could end up changing a lot of people's minds

407
00:15:18,420 --> 00:15:20,420
about the paranormal.

408
00:15:20,420 --> 00:15:22,420
He's a guy.

409
00:15:22,420 --> 00:15:24,420
I think I keep on watching over and over again, man.

410
00:15:24,420 --> 00:15:27,420
Me and Grant caused some evidence in the basement.

411
00:15:27,420 --> 00:15:29,420
I really want to analyze that

412
00:15:29,420 --> 00:15:31,420
and go through it and just try to pick it apart.

413
00:15:31,420 --> 00:15:33,420
It's weird, whatever it is, man.

414
00:15:33,420 --> 00:15:35,420
It looks like it's holding something.

415
00:15:35,420 --> 00:15:37,420
It's potentially a full-body apparition,

416
00:15:37,420 --> 00:15:40,420
which, you know, can blow your mind instantly,

417
00:15:40,420 --> 00:15:43,420
but my natural instinct is to not trust

418
00:15:43,420 --> 00:15:45,420
what I see right off the bat.

419
00:15:45,420 --> 00:15:47,420
I want to get to the bottom of it.

420
00:15:47,420 --> 00:15:49,420
I want to analyze it and really try and figure out

421
00:15:49,420 --> 00:15:51,420
what it could be.

422
00:15:51,420 --> 00:15:53,420
It was in this room, right here.

423
00:15:53,420 --> 00:15:56,420
The head was over here.

424
00:15:56,420 --> 00:15:58,420
The two was on a shoulder.

425
00:15:58,420 --> 00:16:00,420
Yeah, that surface is really...it's all dulled down.

426
00:16:00,420 --> 00:16:02,420
Look at his flashlight.

427
00:16:02,420 --> 00:16:03,420
It's not even shiny.

428
00:16:03,420 --> 00:16:05,420
It's no more reflected than the flip of a wall.

429
00:16:05,420 --> 00:16:07,420
I'm doubting that it's any kind of reflection.

430
00:16:07,420 --> 00:16:09,420
Seeing the locker really helped me understand

431
00:16:09,420 --> 00:16:12,420
that what Jason and Grant caught was a reflection.

432
00:16:12,420 --> 00:16:14,420
It's almost back.

433
00:16:14,420 --> 00:16:17,420
Well, you know what I think is a big cell feature on it?

434
00:16:17,420 --> 00:16:19,420
Is that half.

435
00:16:19,420 --> 00:16:21,420
Just the way it's closing.

436
00:16:21,420 --> 00:16:23,420
Yeah, like cotton duff.

437
00:16:23,420 --> 00:16:26,420
It's got some pretty crazy, crazy footage.

438
00:16:26,420 --> 00:16:28,420
It's awesome.

439
00:16:28,420 --> 00:16:30,420
You guys, do you think with the bag we got that

440
00:16:30,420 --> 00:16:31,420
and just a few other little things?

441
00:16:31,420 --> 00:16:33,420
We're gonna have 40, 50 hours of footage.

442
00:16:33,420 --> 00:16:35,420
Let's wrap up.

443
00:16:35,420 --> 00:16:37,420
Let's pack everything up.

444
00:16:37,420 --> 00:16:40,420
We're gonna put everything in my room for the night.

445
00:16:40,420 --> 00:16:42,420
Ken, it's 4.30 in the morning, man.

446
00:16:42,420 --> 00:16:44,420
I know, you guys get some rest.

447
00:16:44,420 --> 00:16:45,420
Yeah, we're gonna call it a night.

448
00:16:45,420 --> 00:16:47,420
I got the guys packing up right now.

449
00:16:47,420 --> 00:16:51,420
Don't forget maybe if you have time to check out that house.

450
00:16:51,420 --> 00:16:54,420
Yeah, you definitely can't turn down one of the most haunted houses around.

451
00:16:54,420 --> 00:16:56,420
So, it's kind of a point.

452
00:16:56,420 --> 00:16:57,420
Good.

453
00:16:57,420 --> 00:16:58,420
And again, thank you for showing us all around.

454
00:16:58,420 --> 00:16:59,420
It was a pleasure.

455
00:16:59,420 --> 00:17:02,420
I was very impressed with the professionalism of the taps.

456
00:17:02,420 --> 00:17:08,420
And I hope that taps was able to get a lot of hard evidence.

457
00:17:17,420 --> 00:17:19,420
And you, be you.

458
00:17:20,420 --> 00:17:22,420
Boo, boo, boo, boo, boo, you crap.

459
00:17:22,420 --> 00:17:24,420
I thought I just saw something.

460
00:17:24,420 --> 00:17:25,420
Watch.

461
00:17:25,420 --> 00:17:26,420
It's gonna be on the right.

462
00:17:26,420 --> 00:17:27,420
There it is, there it is.

463
00:17:27,420 --> 00:17:28,420
Do you think that it's in a wardrobe?

464
00:17:28,420 --> 00:17:29,420
What do you think that is?

465
00:17:29,420 --> 00:17:33,420
You see, room, someone's walking back and forth and then you just see, pfft, it's fast.

466
00:17:33,420 --> 00:17:35,420
Are you being serious right now?

467
00:17:35,420 --> 00:17:36,420
Yeah, I'm being serious.

468
00:17:36,420 --> 00:17:37,420
Look on the right.

469
00:17:37,420 --> 00:17:39,420
You see that?

470
00:17:39,420 --> 00:17:41,420
I see it, man, but it's a bug.

471
00:17:41,420 --> 00:17:43,420
How are you sure it's a bug?

472
00:17:43,420 --> 00:17:44,420
You just see something shoot across.

473
00:17:44,420 --> 00:17:45,420
I mean, it's...

474
00:17:45,420 --> 00:17:46,420
We're reviewing the evidence.

475
00:17:46,420 --> 00:17:49,420
Sometimes the guys think they see an orb, but it's really a bug.

476
00:17:49,420 --> 00:17:53,420
It's really easy to tell when it's a bug because it's moving fast and it flutters.

477
00:17:53,420 --> 00:17:56,420
You can see the wings flap and it's always solid.

478
00:17:56,420 --> 00:17:57,420
I mean, good eyes.

479
00:17:57,420 --> 00:18:01,420
I mean, you're looking and you're catching things, but I think it's a bug.

480
00:18:05,420 --> 00:18:06,420
Hey guys.

481
00:18:06,420 --> 00:18:07,420
What's up?

482
00:18:07,420 --> 00:18:08,420
What's up?

483
00:18:08,420 --> 00:18:09,420
What do you see?

484
00:18:09,420 --> 00:18:10,420
What do we got, man?

485
00:18:10,420 --> 00:18:11,420
That's only one piece to show you.

486
00:18:11,420 --> 00:18:12,420
Which room is that?

487
00:18:12,420 --> 00:18:13,420
Okay, that's 30.

488
00:18:13,420 --> 00:18:14,420
That's 30.

489
00:18:15,420 --> 00:18:19,420
There was a bug in that room that we had already seen prior.

490
00:18:19,420 --> 00:18:20,420
Yeah, we did see a bug in it.

491
00:18:20,420 --> 00:18:22,420
So that's most likely the bug.

492
00:18:22,420 --> 00:18:23,420
All right.

493
00:18:23,420 --> 00:18:26,420
I can show you, and we'd like to show you the thermal that you guys...

494
00:18:26,420 --> 00:18:28,420
When you caught that in the basement.

495
00:18:28,420 --> 00:18:29,420
I have that queued up.

496
00:18:29,420 --> 00:18:30,420
Look at that.

497
00:18:30,420 --> 00:18:31,420
That's a hat.

498
00:18:31,420 --> 00:18:33,420
Did you see that?

499
00:18:33,420 --> 00:18:34,420
The actual...

500
00:18:34,420 --> 00:18:35,420
This part of the hat?

501
00:18:35,420 --> 00:18:36,420
The ring.

502
00:18:36,420 --> 00:18:37,420
Yeah.

503
00:18:37,420 --> 00:18:40,420
Me and you need to go downstairs and try to recreate this.

504
00:18:40,420 --> 00:18:47,420
I just want to take away the possibility of that somehow being a reflection from you and me catching it.

505
00:18:47,420 --> 00:18:48,420
You know what?

506
00:18:48,420 --> 00:18:50,420
People are going to pick this apart anyway, whoever sees it.

507
00:18:50,420 --> 00:18:53,420
So it's better that you guys probably cover all angles.

508
00:18:53,420 --> 00:18:55,420
All right, then we're going to head down and we're going to test this out.

509
00:18:55,420 --> 00:18:56,420
All right, guys.

510
00:18:56,420 --> 00:19:00,420
The more and more I see that footage of that man, the more and more I want to disprove it.

511
00:19:00,420 --> 00:19:05,420
Me and Grant are actually going to head down and try to recreate it and see what else it could be before we go to the reveal.

512
00:19:07,420 --> 00:19:08,420
How was it?

513
00:19:08,420 --> 00:19:09,420
Right here.

514
00:19:09,420 --> 00:19:11,420
Are we panning like we did?

515
00:19:11,420 --> 00:19:12,420
Pan-alena ding dong.

516
00:19:12,420 --> 00:19:13,420
Pan-pan-pan.

517
00:19:13,420 --> 00:19:14,420
Are we on the locker?

518
00:19:14,420 --> 00:19:16,420
Yeah, I'm on the locker.

519
00:19:16,420 --> 00:19:17,420
Pan up and down.

520
00:19:17,420 --> 00:19:22,420
With a thermal imaging camera, heat can reflect off of walls, glass, metal objects, pretty much anything.

521
00:19:22,420 --> 00:19:24,420
No, it doesn't change anything.

522
00:19:24,420 --> 00:19:28,420
So what I'm wondering, Grant, is if that too was really...

523
00:19:29,420 --> 00:19:30,420
Maybe it was just hot.

524
00:19:30,420 --> 00:19:32,420
It was showing up on the screen hot.

525
00:19:32,420 --> 00:19:35,420
Put your hand in that too, because I'm looking right at it, man.

526
00:19:36,420 --> 00:19:37,420
Yeah, all right.

527
00:19:37,420 --> 00:19:38,420
Now take your hand off.

528
00:19:38,420 --> 00:19:39,420
Get it out.

529
00:19:39,420 --> 00:19:40,420
Look.

530
00:19:40,420 --> 00:19:41,420
That's that too.

531
00:19:41,420 --> 00:19:42,420
It's still your handprint.

532
00:19:42,420 --> 00:19:45,420
Why wouldn't the tube be reflected like it did that night?

533
00:19:45,420 --> 00:19:46,420
I don't know.

534
00:19:47,420 --> 00:19:49,420
Step over one more foot.

535
00:19:49,420 --> 00:19:55,420
We put Grant in the same exact position, and me in the same exact position, and we couldn't recreate anything.

536
00:19:55,420 --> 00:19:57,420
No heat at all was coming off of that locker.

537
00:19:57,420 --> 00:19:58,420
Nothing.

538
00:19:58,420 --> 00:19:59,420
Nothing anywhere.

539
00:19:59,420 --> 00:20:01,420
Doesn't it reflect?

540
00:20:03,420 --> 00:20:05,420
Let's go to the mirror in the other room.

541
00:20:05,420 --> 00:20:10,420
We found a mirror down there, and saw what a reflection should look like.

542
00:20:10,420 --> 00:20:11,420
All right, I got you.

543
00:20:11,420 --> 00:20:12,420
See?

544
00:20:12,420 --> 00:20:13,420
Yeah, you're reflecting heat.

545
00:20:13,420 --> 00:20:14,420
I can see your arms and arms.

546
00:20:14,420 --> 00:20:15,420
Up, down, left, right.

547
00:20:15,420 --> 00:20:16,420
Put your head down.

548
00:20:16,420 --> 00:20:17,420
Put your head down.

549
00:20:17,420 --> 00:20:18,420
Look at that.

550
00:20:20,420 --> 00:20:22,420
I can see it all, Grant.

551
00:20:24,420 --> 00:20:25,420
This...

552
00:20:27,420 --> 00:20:28,420
I don't have an explanation for it.

553
00:20:28,420 --> 00:20:29,420
I'd love to.

554
00:20:29,420 --> 00:20:31,420
We can't pretend to have all the knowledge out there.

555
00:20:31,420 --> 00:20:35,420
All I know is I see a guy with a cap, a military guy, with a cap.

556
00:20:35,420 --> 00:20:36,420
That's what it looks like to me.

557
00:20:36,420 --> 00:20:37,420
All right, let's get out of here.

558
00:20:37,420 --> 00:20:38,420
Come on.

559
00:20:38,420 --> 00:20:41,420
If there's an answer to it, I just don't know yet.

560
00:20:45,420 --> 00:20:47,420
How you guys been over the past little while?

561
00:20:47,420 --> 00:20:48,420
We've been anxious.

562
00:20:48,420 --> 00:20:49,420
Yeah?

563
00:20:49,420 --> 00:20:54,420
The way this group runs is when we go to a place we're going there to try to dismiss claims of a haunting.

564
00:20:54,420 --> 00:21:00,420
It's a lot easier for somebody to go into a place and say, yep, it's haunted, but where's the evidence to support those claims?

565
00:21:00,420 --> 00:21:01,420
How do they prove that?

566
00:21:01,420 --> 00:21:05,420
We've had literally hundreds of reports, so we're anxious to hear what you've found.

567
00:21:05,420 --> 00:21:14,420
After we had all the equipment set up, we let it run, and during that time, we had investigators go around with their own equipment, also their own bodies trying to, you know, see what they feel.

568
00:21:14,420 --> 00:21:21,420
One of our investigators, Dustin, went to go into room 419, which actually we had rented for the night, and Grant had stayed in.

569
00:21:21,420 --> 00:21:25,420
I gave the key to Dustin so he could go up and get something else, and he couldn't open the door.

570
00:21:25,420 --> 00:21:33,420
He had a hard time, and he realized that if he just pushed hard enough, it would open, and sure enough, there was a computer bag that had been blocking the door.

571
00:21:33,420 --> 00:21:38,420
So the computer bag had moved from the TV stand to the door, and nobody was in the room.

572
00:21:38,420 --> 00:21:41,420
But the problem is we didn't capture it on tape.

573
00:21:41,420 --> 00:21:46,420
While it's an impressive experience, it's just another story that you're adding to your list of stories.

574
00:21:46,420 --> 00:21:49,420
Me and Grant started doing a walkthrough with a thermal imaging camera.

575
00:21:49,420 --> 00:21:52,420
We went downstairs to the morgue.

576
00:21:52,420 --> 00:21:54,420
We headed to the back room.

577
00:21:54,420 --> 00:21:58,420
Upon going in that room is where we caught some footage that we'd really like to show you.

578
00:21:58,420 --> 00:22:01,420
It's going to be on the left hand side of the screen.

579
00:22:11,420 --> 00:22:13,420
That's amazing.

580
00:22:13,420 --> 00:22:16,420
It's clearly a person.

581
00:22:16,420 --> 00:22:20,420
It looks like to me like a brim.

582
00:22:20,420 --> 00:22:23,420
It looks like the hat of a stone basin.

583
00:22:23,420 --> 00:22:24,420
Yes.

584
00:22:24,420 --> 00:22:26,420
And no one down there had a hat on.

585
00:22:26,420 --> 00:22:30,420
We tried to recreate that with Grant standing there and with me standing there.

586
00:22:30,420 --> 00:22:36,420
The ending result is that we tried to recreate it twice, and we couldn't get so much as a reflection off the locker.

587
00:22:36,420 --> 00:22:38,420
We couldn't get it to reflect us.

588
00:22:38,420 --> 00:22:39,420
We are true to our evidence.

589
00:22:39,420 --> 00:22:47,420
We're trying to find real, real answers, and if we lie to ourselves and everyone just to make ourselves feel like we caught something, then there'll be no progress.

590
00:22:47,420 --> 00:22:48,420
We don't do that.

591
00:22:48,420 --> 00:22:51,420
We definitely seem to have some kind of activity going on here.

592
00:22:51,420 --> 00:22:52,420
We've had so many reports.

593
00:22:52,420 --> 00:22:57,420
We're pretty sure we had something going on, so we're glad that you have come in and shown us that is the case.

594
00:22:57,420 --> 00:23:01,420
You have some people that don't show up to the human eye, but show up to other instruments.

595
00:23:01,420 --> 00:23:03,420
We really want to thank you guys for having us out here.

596
00:23:03,420 --> 00:23:04,420
Thank you.

597
00:23:04,420 --> 00:23:05,420
It made us a wonderful trip.

598
00:23:05,420 --> 00:23:07,420
I found the image that TAP showed us amazing.

599
00:23:07,420 --> 00:23:09,420
It really was chilling.

600
00:23:09,420 --> 00:23:16,420
I mean, we've had many incidences and reports down in that area, and we're very satisfied with TAPs and what they have proven for us.

601
00:23:16,420 --> 00:23:19,420
And obviously, they have shown their expertise.

602
00:23:19,420 --> 00:23:23,420
The image me and Grant caught in the morgue was really strange.

603
00:23:23,420 --> 00:23:26,420
You know, the people at the Crescent Hotel said that it looks like a Civil War soldier.

604
00:23:26,420 --> 00:23:27,420
Maybe it is.

605
00:23:27,420 --> 00:23:31,420
As far as I'm concerned, we captured an apparition.

606
00:23:40,420 --> 00:23:44,420
This home is supposedly one of the most haunted homes around this area.

607
00:23:44,420 --> 00:23:46,420
It was a physician, Dr. Ellis.

608
00:23:46,420 --> 00:23:49,420
Dr. Ellis, he was the guy that supposedly came out of the elevator and went into that room.

609
00:23:49,420 --> 00:23:50,420
Right.

610
00:23:50,420 --> 00:23:51,420
This is his house.

611
00:23:51,420 --> 00:23:52,420
Let's get over it.

612
00:23:52,420 --> 00:23:54,420
Let's hear the stories and take it from there one step at a time.

613
00:23:54,420 --> 00:23:55,420
We'll play it by ear.

614
00:23:55,420 --> 00:23:56,420
All right, guys.

615
00:23:56,420 --> 00:23:57,420
Let's get out of here.

616
00:24:00,420 --> 00:24:01,420
Hi, Carol.

617
00:24:01,420 --> 00:24:02,420
You're the gentleman?

618
00:24:02,420 --> 00:24:03,420
Yes.

619
00:24:03,420 --> 00:24:04,420
I'm Jason.

620
00:24:04,420 --> 00:24:05,420
Jason, you're the gentleman.

621
00:24:05,420 --> 00:24:06,420
Grant.

622
00:24:06,420 --> 00:24:07,420
Grant.

623
00:24:07,420 --> 00:24:08,420
This is Steve.

624
00:24:08,420 --> 00:24:09,420
Nice to meet you, Carol.

625
00:24:09,420 --> 00:24:10,420
Nice to meet you, gentlemen.

626
00:24:10,420 --> 00:24:11,420
Please come in.

627
00:24:12,420 --> 00:24:18,420
I certainly hope that TAPS gets on film, our unseen friends.

628
00:24:18,420 --> 00:24:22,420
Anything that we can get on film will be really very wonderful.

629
00:24:22,420 --> 00:24:28,420
All right, gentlemen, I'd like to show you the house that I share here with Dr. Ellis.

630
00:24:28,420 --> 00:24:32,420
And I'm very conversant with Dr. Ellis because I'm a medium.

631
00:24:32,420 --> 00:24:37,420
A medium, or we like to call them a sensitive, is someone who is sensitive to personalities,

632
00:24:37,420 --> 00:24:39,420
electrical fields around them.

633
00:24:39,420 --> 00:24:44,420
Someone who can pick up on the emotions of someone who is alive, as well as someone who is dead.

634
00:24:44,420 --> 00:24:51,420
I'm a pianist, and when I play the piano, I feel a crowd of people gather, watching me.

635
00:24:53,420 --> 00:24:56,420
As we go through the door here, we go to the back parlor.

636
00:24:56,420 --> 00:24:59,420
Any people seen things or heard things in here?

637
00:24:59,420 --> 00:25:00,420
Yes, quite often.

638
00:25:00,420 --> 00:25:01,420
Such as?

639
00:25:01,420 --> 00:25:04,420
One will be sitting downstairs and you hear people walking on the floor.

640
00:25:04,420 --> 00:25:06,420
I'm the 12th owner.

641
00:25:06,420 --> 00:25:12,420
I know that two owners ago, they heard so much noise that they had the building XR sized.

642
00:25:14,420 --> 00:25:16,420
So where do you want to head next?

643
00:25:16,420 --> 00:25:18,420
I'd like to take you to the bedroom level.

644
00:25:18,420 --> 00:25:20,420
We'll first go into the master bedroom.

645
00:25:20,420 --> 00:25:21,420
Look at that bed.

646
00:25:21,420 --> 00:25:22,420
Oh, wow.

647
00:25:22,420 --> 00:25:25,420
This is furniture built in the 1870s.

648
00:25:25,420 --> 00:25:27,420
All right, so what kind of activity is going on in this room?

649
00:25:27,420 --> 00:25:32,420
A lady is seen in Victorian clothing sitting in the bay window reading.

650
00:25:33,420 --> 00:25:36,420
These windows open with a beautiful view of the hollow.

651
00:25:36,420 --> 00:25:43,420
There are many stories of hauntings and sightings of beings down in those grounds.

652
00:25:43,420 --> 00:25:45,420
Maybe we'll send some guys out there.

653
00:25:45,420 --> 00:25:50,420
So what we're going to do from here is we're going to go upstairs, we're going to talk to the rest of the crew.

654
00:25:50,420 --> 00:25:51,420
Stephen.

655
00:25:51,420 --> 00:25:56,420
He runs the whole tech department, so he's responsible for setting up cameras and all the family members of the home.

656
00:25:56,420 --> 00:25:57,420
Okay, great.

657
00:25:57,420 --> 00:25:58,420
Can't wait.

658
00:25:58,420 --> 00:26:01,420
Jason Grant took me on the tour in the Dr. Ellis house.

659
00:26:01,420 --> 00:26:03,420
It made everything go a lot smoother.

660
00:26:03,420 --> 00:26:05,420
I could see the exact locations of the cameras.

661
00:26:05,420 --> 00:26:08,420
I knew where the activity was and where the camera should be pointed.

662
00:26:08,420 --> 00:26:10,420
I hope they continue to do that.

663
00:26:10,420 --> 00:26:11,420
Hey, Dust.

664
00:26:11,420 --> 00:26:12,420
Steve went on the tour with us.

665
00:26:12,420 --> 00:26:14,420
He knows a lot of the areas of activity.

666
00:26:14,420 --> 00:26:16,420
We need to set up cameras.

667
00:26:16,420 --> 00:26:20,420
Save Hi8 because you and Dustin are going to go for a walk.

668
00:26:20,420 --> 00:26:22,420
There's a wooded section across the street.

669
00:26:22,420 --> 00:26:23,420
You guys are going to go check it out.

670
00:26:23,420 --> 00:26:24,420
I'm not going to.

671
00:26:24,420 --> 00:26:25,420
I can't go in the woods.

672
00:26:25,420 --> 00:26:26,420
I'm terrified of techs.

673
00:26:26,420 --> 00:26:27,420
Spiders.

674
00:26:27,420 --> 00:26:29,420
You have a bigger tech program than I do in a day.

675
00:26:29,420 --> 00:26:30,420
I'm afraid of a lot of things.

676
00:26:30,420 --> 00:26:31,420
I don't like heights.

677
00:26:31,420 --> 00:26:33,420
I don't like flying.

678
00:26:33,420 --> 00:26:34,420
I don't like spiders.

679
00:26:34,420 --> 00:26:38,420
Spiders are anywhere that there's a branch, wood, trees, Dustin and Dave.

680
00:26:38,420 --> 00:26:39,420
Go in the woods.

681
00:26:39,420 --> 00:26:40,420
Are you standing your ground on this?

682
00:26:40,420 --> 00:26:41,420
I'm not going in the woods.

683
00:26:41,420 --> 00:26:42,420
Are you standing your ground?

684
00:26:42,420 --> 00:26:43,420
Yes or no?

685
00:26:43,420 --> 00:26:44,420
Yes.

686
00:26:44,420 --> 00:26:45,420
Alright, then I respect that.

687
00:26:45,420 --> 00:26:46,420
To the woods.

688
00:26:46,420 --> 00:26:47,420
Jesus.

689
00:26:47,420 --> 00:26:48,420
Alright, let's get the camera set up.

690
00:26:48,420 --> 00:26:49,420
I already get the van.

691
00:26:49,420 --> 00:26:50,420
Everything's wide.

692
00:26:50,420 --> 00:26:51,420
I'm just going to get the cameras on.

693
00:26:51,420 --> 00:26:52,420
Nice.

694
00:26:52,420 --> 00:26:53,420
Nice.

695
00:26:53,420 --> 00:26:54,420
Nice.

696
00:26:54,420 --> 00:26:55,420
Nice.

697
00:26:55,420 --> 00:26:59,420
I would expect the results to show some activity in the house here.

698
00:26:59,420 --> 00:27:07,420
When we do get things on camera, that's going to be even more proof that this is in fact real.

699
00:27:07,420 --> 00:27:11,420
Including Steve on the tour definitely made the setup of the equipment go a lot smoother.

700
00:27:11,420 --> 00:27:16,420
He pretty much had first hand knowledge of where everything needed to be set up and how to run the equipment.

701
00:27:16,420 --> 00:27:18,420
We're definitely going to keep on doing that.

702
00:27:18,420 --> 00:27:23,420
We're putting this camera here because we've got to get a shot of this going all the way into that corner,

703
00:27:23,420 --> 00:27:26,420
including the piano, and so I'm just going to hang it this way.

704
00:27:26,420 --> 00:27:28,420
The sucker's not going anywhere.

705
00:27:28,420 --> 00:27:31,420
Steve got a little creative with the tape, which is good, you know?

706
00:27:31,420 --> 00:27:33,420
He's like a diver with it.

707
00:27:33,420 --> 00:27:35,420
This is the last thing, then we can go dark, right?

708
00:27:35,420 --> 00:27:36,420
Yes, we can.

709
00:27:36,420 --> 00:27:38,420
Let's do it, brother.

710
00:27:38,420 --> 00:27:39,420
Alright.

711
00:27:39,420 --> 00:27:40,420
You can flip my switch.

712
00:27:40,420 --> 00:27:42,420
I'll flip your switch.

713
00:27:47,420 --> 00:27:49,420
Alright guys, we got all the cameras set up.

714
00:27:49,420 --> 00:27:54,420
I'm going to put Dave and Dustin together and have them do just a quick walk down the path.

715
00:27:54,420 --> 00:27:56,420
There's a wooded section across the street.

716
00:27:56,420 --> 00:28:01,420
I've spent a lot of reports of ghostly activity coming from the woods.

717
00:28:01,420 --> 00:28:03,420
Also strange animal sightings.

718
00:28:05,420 --> 00:28:06,420
Keep a walkie on you.

719
00:28:06,420 --> 00:28:08,420
I don't need you getting lost in the woods at Arca Suck.

720
00:28:08,420 --> 00:28:11,420
My ass is going home in a couple of days with or without you.

721
00:28:11,420 --> 00:28:14,420
Steve, you and Donna figure you're going to do a walkthrough with them.

722
00:28:14,420 --> 00:28:17,420
They can talk with Carol back and forth, see if Carol's getting any impressions.

723
00:28:17,420 --> 00:28:20,420
Snap off some pictures, check the EMF meters.

724
00:28:20,420 --> 00:28:23,420
Maybe try to correlate our EMF with his feelings.

725
00:28:23,420 --> 00:28:24,420
I think that'd be great.

726
00:28:24,420 --> 00:28:26,420
Alright, so let's get this show going.

727
00:28:26,420 --> 00:28:27,420
Come on.

728
00:28:27,420 --> 00:28:28,420
Okay, let's go.

729
00:28:28,420 --> 00:28:33,420
This is Donna, Steve and Carol and Carol's parlor.

730
00:28:33,420 --> 00:28:36,420
Oh, I'm getting a lot of energy.

731
00:28:36,420 --> 00:28:39,420
Carol jumped right into the investigation.

732
00:28:39,420 --> 00:28:42,420
Even though he claims to be our medium, he respected our scientific methods.

733
00:28:42,420 --> 00:28:46,420
So I respected his psychic methods and I think we worked pretty good together.

734
00:28:46,420 --> 00:28:48,420
What do you think they prefer to be called, Carol?

735
00:28:48,420 --> 00:28:50,420
Spirits, entities?

736
00:28:50,420 --> 00:28:53,420
Beans, just beans.

737
00:28:53,420 --> 00:28:57,420
Dave and Dustin just suited up and sprayed down with as much deat as possible

738
00:28:57,420 --> 00:29:00,420
because I don't want you guys going back tick infested.

739
00:29:00,420 --> 00:29:02,420
Don't breathe through your mouth.

740
00:29:02,420 --> 00:29:05,420
Be safe, don't screw around.

741
00:29:05,420 --> 00:29:07,420
Stay together, it's a headlamp.

742
00:29:07,420 --> 00:29:08,420
You want to use it?

743
00:29:08,420 --> 00:29:09,420
Don't lose it.

744
00:29:09,420 --> 00:29:11,420
If you lose it, I'll castrate you.

745
00:29:13,420 --> 00:29:15,420
I would love to catch something on film, man.

746
00:29:15,420 --> 00:29:16,420
This would be awesome.

747
00:29:16,420 --> 00:29:17,420
What's up in the woods there, man?

748
00:29:17,420 --> 00:29:18,420
Where?

749
00:29:19,420 --> 00:29:21,420
A dose or something, bro?

750
00:29:21,420 --> 00:29:22,420
Where?

751
00:29:22,420 --> 00:29:27,420
This is a creepy situation because in this setting, your eyes can rarely play tricks on you.

752
00:29:27,420 --> 00:29:32,420
Oh, what is this?

753
00:29:32,420 --> 00:29:36,420
Oh, it's kind of like the other sundial thing.

754
00:29:36,420 --> 00:29:38,420
Oh, look at that guy.

755
00:29:38,420 --> 00:29:40,420
That is unbelievable.

756
00:29:40,420 --> 00:29:42,420
Oh, you can see him moving his little front.

757
00:29:42,420 --> 00:29:44,420
Whatever those eyes, like, where his mouth is.

758
00:29:46,420 --> 00:29:48,420
Where'd he go?

759
00:29:48,420 --> 00:29:50,420
We're not hunting, despite us.

760
00:29:50,420 --> 00:29:51,420
We're looking for ghosts.

761
00:29:51,420 --> 00:29:52,420
Dave, right?

762
00:29:52,420 --> 00:29:53,420
What's that out there?

763
00:29:53,420 --> 00:29:55,420
Take a picture of that.

764
00:29:55,420 --> 00:29:57,420
I think I just saw something.

765
00:29:57,420 --> 00:29:59,420
I think I just saw eyes.

766
00:30:03,420 --> 00:30:04,420
There it is, there it is.

767
00:30:04,420 --> 00:30:05,420
See it?

768
00:30:05,420 --> 00:30:06,420
Whoa!

769
00:30:06,420 --> 00:30:07,420
What is it?

770
00:30:07,420 --> 00:30:08,420
What is that thing?

771
00:30:08,420 --> 00:30:10,420
There's something down there.

772
00:30:10,420 --> 00:30:12,420
It's like a sitting duck out here.

773
00:30:12,420 --> 00:30:13,420
What the hell is that?

774
00:30:13,420 --> 00:30:16,420
Dude, there's going to be something going on over here.

775
00:30:16,420 --> 00:30:18,420
Oh, it's eyes.

776
00:30:19,420 --> 00:30:21,420
What's that?

777
00:30:29,420 --> 00:30:31,420
Oh, this is creepy as hell, man.

778
00:30:34,420 --> 00:30:35,420
Where'd it go?

779
00:30:35,420 --> 00:30:36,420
It's right there.

780
00:30:36,420 --> 00:30:38,420
Let's go closer.

781
00:30:38,420 --> 00:30:39,420
There it is.

782
00:30:39,420 --> 00:30:40,420
Where is it?

783
00:30:40,420 --> 00:30:41,420
Right there.

784
00:30:41,420 --> 00:30:42,420
See it?

785
00:30:42,420 --> 00:30:43,420
The deer.

786
00:30:43,420 --> 00:30:44,420
Oh, yeah.

787
00:30:44,420 --> 00:30:45,420
Let's leave him alone.

788
00:30:45,420 --> 00:30:48,420
You're going to scare him to death with your lights.

789
00:30:48,420 --> 00:30:50,420
Man, it's tough to do a case in the woods.

790
00:30:53,420 --> 00:30:58,420
We need to make it a situation where Jay and I can sit down with Carol

791
00:30:58,420 --> 00:31:01,420
and figure him out.

792
00:31:03,420 --> 00:31:08,420
I know as a medium that the spontaneous things are what really happen.

793
00:31:08,420 --> 00:31:11,420
If Carol feels anything's in the room, we're going to try to solidify that

794
00:31:11,420 --> 00:31:12,420
with a thermal imaging camera.

795
00:31:12,420 --> 00:31:16,420
And honestly, to find out if he's really what he claims to be,

796
00:31:16,420 --> 00:31:18,420
not to shoot him down or anything,

797
00:31:18,420 --> 00:31:21,420
but we need to capture stuff that you can see with your eyes.

798
00:31:21,420 --> 00:31:24,420
How long have you known that you're sensitive?

799
00:31:24,420 --> 00:31:26,420
Oh, years.

800
00:31:26,420 --> 00:31:30,420
When I was a little kid, I was knowing things that were going to happen.

801
00:31:30,420 --> 00:31:32,420
Can you give me a psychic reading of myself?

802
00:31:32,420 --> 00:31:34,420
No, let me try here.

803
00:31:35,420 --> 00:31:40,420
You need to repeat your full name three times to give me permission to read your energy.

804
00:31:40,420 --> 00:31:42,420
Jason Conrad Haas.

805
00:31:42,420 --> 00:31:44,420
Jason Conrad Haas.

806
00:31:44,420 --> 00:31:46,420
A medium will sometimes give a person a reading.

807
00:31:46,420 --> 00:31:51,420
What that actually entails is trying to absorb some of the person's energy

808
00:31:51,420 --> 00:31:55,420
to be able to see the events in the past that are leading them to the point

809
00:31:55,420 --> 00:31:57,420
where they will be in the future.

810
00:31:57,420 --> 00:32:01,420
We believe that very few mediums are legit.

811
00:32:01,420 --> 00:32:06,420
This has come to me, a farmhouse in the country,

812
00:32:06,420 --> 00:32:10,420
big oak trees or something around it.

813
00:32:10,420 --> 00:32:14,420
And it's not really your place of residence.

814
00:32:14,420 --> 00:32:16,420
Is it like an uncle or something?

815
00:32:16,420 --> 00:32:17,420
Um, yeah, actually.

816
00:32:17,420 --> 00:32:19,420
Okay, okay.

817
00:32:19,420 --> 00:32:25,420
You've also got deceased family members who come to you when you're asleep.

818
00:32:25,420 --> 00:32:26,420
Is that correct?

819
00:32:26,420 --> 00:32:27,420
That's correct.

820
00:32:27,420 --> 00:32:28,420
Yes, okay.

821
00:32:28,420 --> 00:32:32,420
I think your wife is not quite so interested.

822
00:32:32,420 --> 00:32:33,420
Is that correct?

823
00:32:33,420 --> 00:32:34,420
That would be correct.

824
00:32:34,420 --> 00:32:37,420
When a medium or a sensitive tries to read,

825
00:32:37,420 --> 00:32:40,420
when it comes to sensitivity, there are many different levels.

826
00:32:40,420 --> 00:32:45,420
But I think probably about 95, 96% of the people I come across

827
00:32:45,420 --> 00:32:47,420
who claim that they are sensitive are not.

828
00:32:47,420 --> 00:32:52,420
When you were a child, you had a shock to your psyche in a sense.

829
00:32:52,420 --> 00:32:54,420
A life-changing experience?

830
00:32:54,420 --> 00:32:55,420
Yeah, no.

831
00:32:55,420 --> 00:32:56,420
Okay.

832
00:32:56,420 --> 00:32:58,420
That's the way to put it.

833
00:32:58,420 --> 00:33:00,420
Don't forget I get a turn too.

834
00:33:00,420 --> 00:33:04,420
If you want to sit here for a minute and get a reading, I'm going to set the car aside.

835
00:33:04,420 --> 00:33:08,420
One thing you really need to be cautious with when it comes to dealing with a psychic

836
00:33:08,420 --> 00:33:10,420
is the questions that they ask you.

837
00:33:10,420 --> 00:33:14,420
You're trying to block somebody from, of course, getting into your mind.

838
00:33:14,420 --> 00:33:18,420
Give it your full name three times and permission to read you.

839
00:33:18,420 --> 00:33:20,420
Grant Steven Wilson.

840
00:33:20,420 --> 00:33:21,420
Grant Steven Wilson.

841
00:33:21,420 --> 00:33:23,420
Grant Steven Wilson.

842
00:33:23,420 --> 00:33:28,420
You had a visitation from the other side that set you spinning.

843
00:33:28,420 --> 00:33:30,420
I was impressed with Carol.

844
00:33:30,420 --> 00:33:36,420
The thing that got me the most was his percentage of accuracy with Jay and myself.

845
00:33:36,420 --> 00:33:38,420
It was almost a near-death experience.

846
00:33:38,420 --> 00:33:39,420
Oh, yeah.

847
00:33:41,420 --> 00:33:42,420
What was that?

848
00:33:43,420 --> 00:33:47,420
Jay, while we were downstairs, we did hear a big bang.

849
00:33:48,420 --> 00:33:50,420
Hold on. Who was this?

850
00:33:54,420 --> 00:33:57,420
It seemed like it was probably in here somewhere.

851
00:34:07,420 --> 00:34:09,420
Oh, no.

852
00:34:09,420 --> 00:34:10,420
Crap.

853
00:34:10,420 --> 00:34:13,420
Steve had a crazy camera purchase.

854
00:34:13,420 --> 00:34:15,420
I thought of the window.

855
00:34:15,420 --> 00:34:18,420
When he purchased it up, I had a fear that was going to happen.

856
00:34:18,420 --> 00:34:20,420
No one's out on the main watching it, so we didn't know.

857
00:34:20,420 --> 00:34:21,420
Oh, man.

858
00:34:21,420 --> 00:34:23,420
This is Jason and Grant in here.

859
00:34:23,420 --> 00:34:25,420
There was a big bang that happened in this room.

860
00:34:25,420 --> 00:34:28,420
It was the actual camera falling from the window to the floor.

861
00:34:28,420 --> 00:34:31,420
So if it's broken, Steve, you owe me 400 bucks.

862
00:34:33,420 --> 00:34:36,420
So Dustin's don't want to walk through in the woods.

863
00:34:36,420 --> 00:34:38,420
God, they got to be covered in text.

864
00:34:40,420 --> 00:34:41,420
Is that a black thing right there?

865
00:34:41,420 --> 00:34:43,420
Oh, there's a shadow. Sorry.

866
00:34:43,420 --> 00:34:45,420
Whatever am I going to do with you?

867
00:34:47,420 --> 00:34:49,420
Oh, a glass. Watch out for the glass.

868
00:34:49,420 --> 00:34:51,420
Oh, all of us.

869
00:34:53,420 --> 00:34:55,420
It's a little bench.

870
00:35:00,420 --> 00:35:02,420
I think we should probably start heading back, man.

871
00:35:02,420 --> 00:35:03,420
All right.

872
00:35:06,420 --> 00:35:08,420
Are you guys taken-fested?

873
00:35:08,420 --> 00:35:09,420
I hope not, guys.

874
00:35:09,420 --> 00:35:11,420
Steve, your ingenious concoction on the window fell.

875
00:35:11,420 --> 00:35:12,420
Are you serious?

876
00:35:12,420 --> 00:35:16,420
No, that's good, because now we know the cameras can handle a six-foot wall.

877
00:35:16,420 --> 00:35:18,420
Yeah, try not to drop them anymore.

878
00:35:18,420 --> 00:35:21,420
All right, let's pack up. Let's do it quiet.

879
00:35:22,420 --> 00:35:25,420
And you're recording? This is downstairs in the fireplace room.

880
00:35:26,420 --> 00:35:29,420
Got a lot of evidence to go through. Oh my gosh.

881
00:35:30,420 --> 00:35:32,420
We're going to head out of here, and over the next few days,

882
00:35:32,420 --> 00:35:34,420
we're going to go through all the evidence we gathered,

883
00:35:34,420 --> 00:35:36,420
and we'll come back, sit down, and show you what we caught,

884
00:35:36,420 --> 00:35:38,420
what we didn't catch, and so forth.

885
00:35:38,420 --> 00:35:40,420
All right, well, thank you very much.

886
00:35:40,420 --> 00:35:41,420
Thank you very much.

887
00:35:41,420 --> 00:35:42,420
It's been a pleasure, Carol.

888
00:35:42,420 --> 00:35:43,420
Thank you.

889
00:35:43,420 --> 00:35:44,420
I'll talk to you real soon.

890
00:35:44,420 --> 00:35:47,420
I was so happy that TAPS came here to investigate.

891
00:35:47,420 --> 00:35:50,420
The experience with Jason and Grant has been wonderful.

892
00:35:50,420 --> 00:35:54,420
It's like we've always done this.

893
00:35:54,420 --> 00:35:56,420
I don't know what was going on in there,

894
00:35:56,420 --> 00:35:59,420
but I just saw something I've never, ever seen before.

895
00:35:59,420 --> 00:36:00,420
What did you say?

896
00:36:08,420 --> 00:36:09,420
Yeah, what's up?

897
00:36:09,420 --> 00:36:11,420
I don't know what was going on in there,

898
00:36:11,420 --> 00:36:14,420
but I just saw something I've never, ever seen before.

899
00:36:14,420 --> 00:36:15,420
What did you say?

900
00:36:16,420 --> 00:36:19,420
You had many pleasant times.

901
00:36:19,420 --> 00:36:20,420
I was zoomed in on Carol.

902
00:36:20,420 --> 00:36:22,420
It was just like psychedelic.

903
00:36:22,420 --> 00:36:24,420
It was like a 70s hippie show, just colors, flash,

904
00:36:24,420 --> 00:36:26,420
and kaleidoscope in front of my eyes.

905
00:36:26,420 --> 00:36:28,420
We're not supposed to say things in front of the client.

906
00:36:28,420 --> 00:36:31,420
I'm sitting in the chair videotaping this crazy kaleidoscope show,

907
00:36:31,420 --> 00:36:33,420
and I've just been dying to tell you.

908
00:36:33,420 --> 00:36:34,420
Well, it's funny you say that,

909
00:36:34,420 --> 00:36:37,420
because while he was trying to read me, I was trying to block it.

910
00:36:37,420 --> 00:36:38,420
Well, that's exactly when it happened,

911
00:36:38,420 --> 00:36:42,420
was when he was asking those questions you didn't want to answer.

912
00:36:42,420 --> 00:36:46,420
But it only happened when it seemed like the conversation was getting intense.

913
00:36:46,420 --> 00:36:50,420
I asked Carol a question that I really didn't want him to have the answer for,

914
00:36:50,420 --> 00:36:53,420
to the point where it was going to be hard for him to read me.

915
00:36:53,420 --> 00:36:58,420
And Grant picked up some strange thermal imaging camera images.

916
00:36:58,420 --> 00:37:00,420
It wasn't subtle at all. It's insane.

917
00:37:00,420 --> 00:37:04,420
It was coming from Jay, and it was almost like you could see that struggle.

918
00:37:04,420 --> 00:37:07,420
But hey, it's just a theory. I'm not saying that's what it was.

919
00:37:08,420 --> 00:37:13,420
We're getting ready to analyze the evidence for Carol's house.

920
00:37:13,420 --> 00:37:16,420
We have a lot of work to do and only a little time to do it,

921
00:37:16,420 --> 00:37:19,420
so we're going to start now and get through it.

922
00:37:19,420 --> 00:37:20,420
Here we go. See it?

923
00:37:20,420 --> 00:37:21,420
Yeah.

924
00:37:21,420 --> 00:37:24,420
Now there's those two. But what about that first one? It's pretty bright.

925
00:37:24,420 --> 00:37:25,420
The first one is pretty bright.

926
00:37:25,420 --> 00:37:26,420
It's solid.

927
00:37:26,420 --> 00:37:27,420
I vote dust.

928
00:37:27,420 --> 00:37:28,420
Agreed.

929
00:37:28,420 --> 00:37:29,420
Agreed.

930
00:37:29,420 --> 00:37:32,420
We had a lot to go through, but, you know, we got a few things, you know,

931
00:37:32,420 --> 00:37:34,420
that was definitely worth all the weight.

932
00:37:34,420 --> 00:37:37,420
Jason and Grant mentioned that when they were talking to Carol,

933
00:37:37,420 --> 00:37:39,420
some weird stuff was going on in the thermals.

934
00:37:39,420 --> 00:37:40,420
I want to check that out.

935
00:37:40,420 --> 00:37:43,420
Thermal cam seemed to be worth its weight in gold this time around.

936
00:37:43,420 --> 00:37:45,420
Crazy colors. Check this out.

937
00:37:45,420 --> 00:37:46,420
Wow.

938
00:37:46,420 --> 00:37:48,420
This doesn't read energy. This reads heat.

939
00:37:48,420 --> 00:37:49,420
But that energy is heat.

940
00:37:49,420 --> 00:37:51,420
Maybe his body's just getting hotter.

941
00:37:51,420 --> 00:37:52,420
That's crazy.

942
00:37:52,420 --> 00:37:54,420
Jay is sitting adjacent to him.

943
00:37:54,420 --> 00:37:55,420
The adjacent one is the craziest.

944
00:37:55,420 --> 00:37:56,420
There's energy.

945
00:37:56,420 --> 00:37:59,420
It starts to rise. It starts to build off of him.

946
00:37:59,420 --> 00:38:00,420
Whoa.

947
00:38:00,420 --> 00:38:01,420
What is that?

948
00:38:01,420 --> 00:38:02,420
That is going crazy.

949
00:38:02,420 --> 00:38:03,420
It's pretty weird.

950
00:38:03,420 --> 00:38:05,420
I don't know, man. That'll make you think.

951
00:38:05,420 --> 00:38:07,420
That's weird.

952
00:38:07,420 --> 00:38:10,420
I've never seen thermal footage like that that we recorded at Carol's house.

953
00:38:10,420 --> 00:38:14,420
I've never seen it in regards to working with a sensitive or psychic.

954
00:38:14,420 --> 00:38:18,420
And I think it might lend a little more credibility to the spiritual side of

955
00:38:18,420 --> 00:38:20,420
paranormal investigation.

956
00:38:24,420 --> 00:38:25,420
Hey, guys.

957
00:38:25,420 --> 00:38:26,420
What's going on?

958
00:38:26,420 --> 00:38:28,420
Let us see what we got, man.

959
00:38:28,420 --> 00:38:30,420
The thermal of the Dr. Ellis house.

960
00:38:30,420 --> 00:38:32,420
Of you and Carol.

961
00:38:32,420 --> 00:38:33,420
I'd love for him to see that.

962
00:38:33,420 --> 00:38:35,420
I was stuck in that chair.

963
00:38:35,420 --> 00:38:37,420
I feel like I was watching Hendrick's video.

964
00:38:37,420 --> 00:38:39,420
So, Jay, this is where you're being read by Carol.

965
00:38:39,420 --> 00:38:40,420
Okay.

966
00:38:40,420 --> 00:38:41,420
Now watch it.

967
00:38:48,420 --> 00:38:50,420
The thermal image grows off of you.

968
00:38:50,420 --> 00:38:52,420
That's why I panned it across.

969
00:38:52,420 --> 00:38:53,420
To follow it.

970
00:38:53,420 --> 00:38:55,420
Some kind of light. Here it comes.

971
00:38:55,420 --> 00:38:57,420
What the heck?

972
00:38:58,420 --> 00:39:02,420
After reviewing the thermal footage of when me and Carol were sitting downstairs

973
00:39:02,420 --> 00:39:04,420
talking, I have no idea.

974
00:39:04,420 --> 00:39:05,420
I have no response.

975
00:39:05,420 --> 00:39:10,420
You know, man, it's different, but, you know, I'm not going to draw any conclusions yet.

976
00:39:10,420 --> 00:39:15,420
I'm glad Jay finally got to see it today and really understand what I was seeing.

977
00:39:15,420 --> 00:39:17,420
Now watch Carol. This is interesting.

978
00:39:20,420 --> 00:39:23,420
As soon as he moves his hand, he kind of wipes it away.

979
00:39:23,420 --> 00:39:30,420
When Jason saw the footage, I think it had an impact on him to see something actually generated

980
00:39:30,420 --> 00:39:33,420
from around his area and spanned across the room.

981
00:39:33,420 --> 00:39:36,420
I think Jason is a little confused by it.

982
00:39:36,420 --> 00:39:39,420
This case isn't anything like any case we've ever worked on.

983
00:39:39,420 --> 00:39:43,420
We don't pretend to have equipment that specifically designed to pick up psychic energy.

984
00:39:43,420 --> 00:39:45,420
So maybe Carol's haunted, not his house.

985
00:39:50,420 --> 00:39:52,420
What do you think about his psychic abilities?

986
00:39:52,420 --> 00:39:58,420
We went there to see if the house was haunted and what we do have is some weird footage when he was trying to read you.

987
00:39:58,420 --> 00:40:02,420
And that's the only time that happened was when he was trying to read you.

988
00:40:02,420 --> 00:40:06,420
I don't want to say that that's proof because I don't know what that means, but we have to show him.

989
00:40:06,420 --> 00:40:10,420
I am wondering if when he sees that footage, he's going to chew his own horn.

990
00:40:12,420 --> 00:40:13,420
Hey Carol.

991
00:40:13,420 --> 00:40:15,420
Please come sit down.

992
00:40:15,420 --> 00:40:16,420
Thank you.

993
00:40:16,420 --> 00:40:17,420
Well Carol, it's good to see you again.

994
00:40:17,420 --> 00:40:19,420
How have you been over the last couple of days?

995
00:40:19,420 --> 00:40:20,420
Fine.

996
00:40:21,420 --> 00:40:22,420
Any new activity in the house?

997
00:40:22,420 --> 00:40:23,420
Yes.

998
00:40:23,420 --> 00:40:24,420
Our unseen friends.

999
00:40:24,420 --> 00:40:26,420
Our very interested.

1000
00:40:26,420 --> 00:40:29,420
What are you doing with all this equipment and stuff in here?

1001
00:40:29,420 --> 00:40:36,420
We'd like to show you some footage that we caught with the thermal imaging camera downstairs during the time that I asked you to give me a reading.

1002
00:40:36,420 --> 00:40:39,420
Keep in mind that this does not measure light, does not measure energy.

1003
00:40:39,420 --> 00:40:41,420
It only measures heat.

1004
00:40:41,420 --> 00:40:43,420
Now here it just goes psychedelic.

1005
00:40:44,420 --> 00:40:45,420
Fascinating.

1006
00:40:45,420 --> 00:40:48,420
Take from it what you will, but I don't know what it is.

1007
00:40:49,420 --> 00:40:53,420
At this point, you were reading Jason and he was not wanting you to.

1008
00:40:53,420 --> 00:41:00,420
Even though I was asking you to give me a reading, I was also trying to keep you from giving me a reading because my story has always been my story.

1009
00:41:00,420 --> 00:41:02,420
I've always wanted to keep that private.

1010
00:41:02,420 --> 00:41:07,420
We all have things that we would rather not have revealed.

1011
00:41:07,420 --> 00:41:10,420
So just watch what happens. It's kind of interesting.

1012
00:41:12,420 --> 00:41:14,420
Jay Monti's a missile at you.

1013
00:41:14,420 --> 00:41:15,420
Oh yes.

1014
00:41:15,420 --> 00:41:17,420
We've used thermal quite a bit.

1015
00:41:17,420 --> 00:41:19,420
We did not expect to find this.

1016
00:41:19,420 --> 00:41:20,420
Don't know what it means.

1017
00:41:20,420 --> 00:41:24,420
So I don't want to read too much into it, but it's an anomaly that we can't explain.

1018
00:41:24,420 --> 00:41:25,420
What would you think?

1019
00:41:25,420 --> 00:41:32,420
There was an awfully high level of energy obviously, either from me or from our unseen friends.

1020
00:41:32,420 --> 00:41:36,420
I don't think Jason was getting tension or nervous.

1021
00:41:36,420 --> 00:41:44,420
His curiosity was generating a lot of energy and I was sending him energy and reading his energy at the same time.

1022
00:41:44,420 --> 00:41:48,420
The thermal footage just validates what we mediums do.

1023
00:41:48,420 --> 00:41:53,420
Our aura as we color it around us, our energy will change color.

1024
00:41:53,420 --> 00:41:57,420
So the thermal imaging is a very good proof of that.

1025
00:41:57,420 --> 00:42:00,420
We got something weird. What it means? I don't know.

1026
00:42:00,420 --> 00:42:05,420
We just wanted to stop by and show you this and tell you that we really appreciate you having us out.

1027
00:42:05,420 --> 00:42:08,420
It was a pleasure. It's been a real pleasure, Jason.

1028
00:42:08,420 --> 00:42:10,420
Thank you, Grant. Keep in touch, okay?

1029
00:42:10,420 --> 00:42:13,420
This is an incredible thing that TAPS is doing.

1030
00:42:13,420 --> 00:42:22,420
It helps to sell the general public on the fact that what we mediums do is real and that there is another side that communicates with us.

1031
00:42:22,420 --> 00:42:24,420
So you didn't go to bed?

1032
00:42:24,420 --> 00:42:29,420
I was impressed with Carol. I thought he was going to snatch that evidence and claim it, but he really didn't.

1033
00:42:29,420 --> 00:42:31,420
He was like us. He didn't know what to make of it.

1034
00:42:31,420 --> 00:42:34,420
We've been out of a good day and a half right ahead of us, man.

1035
00:42:34,420 --> 00:42:36,420
Get back to Rhode Island, you know.

1036
00:42:36,420 --> 00:42:40,420
I'll kick back, sleep a little because I'm making you drive at some point on this trip.

1037
00:42:40,420 --> 00:42:42,420
Alright, I'll tell you now.

1038
00:43:34,420 --> 00:43:36,420
You